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[edit] Some heavy modifications, optimizations and reordering

Please note I'm new to the whole wiki thing, so I'm not really sure on protocol and such for discussion pages. I spent a few hours doing some major revisions to the Necromaster build netting a huge gain in skill points at the cost of a more natural progression. Please have a look and if everyone thinks the optimizations are worthwhile perhaps this could be moved to the original page. Original build is from "Meet the Power Builds Ed. 2.7.1" and is by Xerosos.

Wizard 26 / Arcane Scholar of Candlekeep 3 / Pale Master 1

by Sekhethsis 13:41, 9 March 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Description

This is a modification of Xeorsos' Necromaster build found in found in Meet the Power Builds Ed. 2.7.1. The selected feats are the same just in an order that gives the three epic intelligence feats as soon as possible to maximize skill point gain. Also the prestige class levels have been shuffled around. The class is not fully optimized. A further optimization would be to move the pale master level to a higher level, perhaps level 29, so as to maximize the amount of listen that can be bought as a class skill. I did not due this mainly since I wanted the build to be a bit more natural in terms of progressing through the original campaign. There are some optional changes: drow instead of sun elf, this is just since I like the drow bonuses, if one wants to use the original sun elf and avoid the ECL no changes need to be made as the intelligence bonus is the same, dexterity will simply be two points lower; generalist instead of illusion specialist, this is since I just like learning all the spells possible, going specialist will result in a slightly more powerful character - it's up to you. The change in terms of skills is this: 1 point in each of open locks, disable device, sleight of hand (this adds some low level utility); max listen, the original build only attained listen 16; diplomacy 20, the original build had diplomacy 23 and I just saw no reason for those extra three points and I like even numbers; alchemy 15 compared to the original alchemy 14. Toughness is now the final feat selected as I feel that it isn't that necessary at lower levels as the focus should be on avoiding combat, having it at the end also makes it a nice point on which one can customize the build slightly, please let me know if anyone has any suggestions on a better feat choice here.

Advantages:

  • Much more skill points to spend

Disadvantages:

  • Unnatural skill points progression
  • Low BAB
  • Low Fort save

[edit] Character Creation

Initial
Values 		Final
Values
STR 8 8
DEX 14 14
CON 14 14
INT 20 30
WIS 10 10
CHA 10 10
Base attack bonus 14
Fortitude save 11
Reflex save 11
Will save 20
Spell resistance 41
Hit Points 212
Natural AC 15


Race: Drow

Classes: Wizard 26, Arcane Scholar of Candlekeep 3, Pale Master 1

Cleric Domains: -

Build Nature: {PvP, PvM, or RP? Playable at what levels?}

Alignment: Neutral Evil

Deity: Lolth



[edit] Progression

Open Lock
Lore Sleight of Hand
Listen Spellcraft
Disable Device Spot
Diplomacy Tumble
Craft Alchemy Use Magic Device
Concentration Save
CL Class Feat Bonus/Class Feats Co CAl Di DD Li Lo OL SH Sc Sp Tu UMD Sa Attributes
1 Wizard 1 Spellcasting Prodigy Weapon Proficiency (Wizard), Summon Familiar, Scribe Scroll 4 0 0 1 0 4 1 1 4 1 2 2 0
2 Wizard 2 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0
3 Wizard 3 Skill Focus (Concentration) 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0
4 Wizard 4 1 2 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 INT+1
5 Wizard 5 Empower Spell 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0
6 Wizard 6 Skill Focus (Spellcraft) 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1
7 Arcane Scholar of Candlekeep 1 Maximize Spell, Arcane Scholar Spellcasting (Wizard) 0 0 8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8 Wizard 7 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 1 0 0 INT+1
9 Wizard 8 Spell Focus (Necromancy) 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1
10 Wizard 9 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 2 0 1 0
11 Wizard 10 Spell Penetration 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 0
12 Arcane Scholar of Candlekeep 2 Extend Spell Spell Knowledge (+1) 1 0 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 INT+1
13 Wizard 11 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 1 0 1
14 Wizard 12 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 2 0 1 0
15 Wizard 13 Persistent Spell 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 1 1
16 Wizard 14 1 5 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 0 INT+1
17 Arcane Scholar of Candlekeep 3 Improved Empower Spell 1 0 5 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0
18 Wizard 15 Greater Spell Penetration Greater Spell Focus (Necromancy) 1 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 1 1 0 1 1
19 Wizard 16 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 5
20 Pale Master 1 Pale Master Spellcasting (Wizard) Bone Skin 0 0 0 0 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 INT+1
21 Wizard 17 Great Intelligence (+1) 2 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 2 0 0 1 1
22 Wizard 18 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 2 1 1 0
23 Wizard 19 Great Intelligence (+2) 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 1
24 Wizard 20 Great Intelligence (+3) 1 1 0 0 4 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 INT+1
25 Wizard 21 Epic Spell: Vampiric Feast 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 0
26 Wizard 22 1 0 0 0 4 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
27 Wizard 23 Epic Spell: Epic Gate Epic Spell Focus (Necromancy) 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 0
28 Wizard 24 1 1 0 0 4 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 INT+1
29 Wizard 25 Epic Spell Penetration 1 1 0 0 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 1 0
30 Wizard 26 Toughness 1 1 0 0 4 1 0 0 1 0 0 0 0
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